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Firstly, thank you to everyone for the help. The Cafe racer website ones seem great. I had figured that the low cost ones were always non-E marked, and the web is alive with bad reports of cheap Chinese non-compliant lamps. Hence my leaning to the Wipac ones.

BUT that website spoils me for choice. They're e-marked and 7" :-)

There seem to be a number of models, all pretty low cost, so I need to work out what the differences are.

One thing of note is that all sources of 7" LED lamps are almost solely focussed on Land Rover Defenders. No idea why because a lamp is a lamp, but LRD owners have some serious discussion going on about them.

Thank you everyone. At only about £60 a lamp there's no point bothering to buy LED bulbs and run an illegal setup.

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Paul

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I think I'll be wiring the halo DRL to my sidelight wire, otherwise there are no sidelights...

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And now I have another question. Imagine I wire the halo lamps to what were my sidelights. My plan was to use the drl lamps as sidelights. When I then switch to dip, does the sidelight go out (I can't check this as my 7 is away being restored) ?

And if it doesn't, is there any issue with legally having the drl/sidelights on with the actual headlamps?

I've bought the new Caterham rear lamps and they're LED so I was thinking of driving in daylight with the sidelights on, which would use little power and give me DRL but leave the tail lights illuminated. Then as the light fades the DRLs would become, unwittingly, the sidelights, and as darkness falls I'd put dip on, when either the sidelights/DRL would go off or wouldn't matter. 

That was the plan, but the legality is bothering me. 


 

 

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And having slept on it... I've gone cold on the whole idea of adding LED headlamps. Using the halo ring as a sidelight is fraught by the fact that they're not dimmable and are almost certainly too bright to masquerade as sidelights. 

And I don't have any other wires to the headlamps. I have dip, main, ground and sidelights (1997 car). The new lamps wouldn't have dedicated side lamps, just the DRL, so it's back to replacing my LED bulbs with H4 on MoT day, or, as has been suggested in a PM, using another MoT centre with more reasonable testers. 

Thanks for all your inputs. 

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Hi wrightpain and Pasha. Yes I did wire up the DRL as my side light as I always drive with my lights on all day every day. I followed recommendations by others and many others have followed on. They look the same as the CC ones and have excellent beam pattern. Driving at night is a pleasure. Happy to email or what's app pictures as its easier. They fitted very easily in my 5 3/4 bowls without any filling or fuss, I guess the 7 inch will be same. They will be able to confirm this. Just be careful of the spring clips flying, eye protection is a must.... Only a slight wiring mod needed for sidelight DRL.

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Hi Ian, see my reply at the bottom

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Thankyou! Seems an inexpensive upgrade and e marked so we're legal! 

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Thanks K7VCT. I have asked them via webchat. If you did it then I am happy to give it a go, the pics for the 7" on their site show a half brightness version of the halo, so I have asked them how this is accessed. I don't care for any reason other than MoT.

My plan is to do what you do, wire DRL to sidelights, drive all day with the sidelights on for safety. I have bought the new Caterham rear lamps so the power drain will be very low. I just don't want the MoT man saying that (as sidelights) they're too bright.

I'll report back.

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My usual MOT place has never had a problem, I did have incredibly bright side light led bulbs fitted in my original lights beforehand. As I said i can send pictures if anyone likes by email or what's app.

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Thanks for the offer to send pics, the lights are £105 for 2, so I'll take a punt. I can't be much worse off MOT wise than currently. Their beef with my current setup was the lamps were never designed for the bulbs and the legislation since Brexit bears them out, but if I have e-marked complete lights, doing what they do... it should be fine.

Thank you so much again

 

1997 'K' series 1600 Seven Supersport (158bhp, Nitrons, SCS Delta ECU)

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