91 posts / 0 new
Last post
Pasha
Pasha's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 29/03/2021
7" LED Headlamps

I'm restoring and thoroughly modernising my 97 car. Currently it has the low cost approach of some nice quality LED bulbs installed into the original headlamps. This would be OK, but it is illegal now (after Jan 2021). So once-a-year I'll have to swap the bulbs back for H4, then back again. This is daft, and it also likely voids my insurance in the event of a claim that might be headlamp related, because they are illegal.

So I'm replacing the 7" units with some decent, proper LED ones. I don't drive much at night anyway, but a good price compromise seems to be the WIPAC S7097LED ones at £389 (eBay). These are commonly fitted to Land Rovers apparently, though the classic mini parts supplier seems to also list them.

I did a search of the forums here, but all I could find were threads from folk promoting the now illegal route, before it was illegal (blame BREXIT for this, EU law still says it's OK, UK law now doesn't)

My question is, has anyone fitted these WIPAC LED lamps to a 7 with 7" headlamp bowls?

Best regards

Paul

Jonathan Kay
Jonathan Kay's picture
Online
Last seen: 2 min 57 sec ago
Joined: 17/04/2014

Same as the ones discussed here?

I'd ask both JAL and Classic Car LEDs what they recommend.

Jonathan

Pasha
Pasha's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 29/03/2021

I read the thread you refer to, but it's the usual "just stick some LEDs into your existing headlamps" response. Which, as mentioned is now illegal. I'm happy to buy some proper lamps, I just wondered whether anyone had fitted the Wipac ones to a 7" bowl, because if I buy them and they don't fit for some reason, it'll be hassle. Sevens and Classics sell some low cost generic one, and the JB Speaker ones, so we know they work, but they're £650, and the WIPAC ones are £389, so I wanted some opinion if anyone had fitted any?

So has anyone fitted JB Speaker lamps, or the WIPAC ones ?

BTW the JAL site has the same ones that Caterham sell, predictably at a significantly lower cost, the issue is they're the 5" ones. I don't want to swap sizes because the 7" ones look way better in my opinion.

As a reference for the legality issue...

Brexit 2021 Update

Please note that since January 2021, the MOT Inspection manual has been updated to include LED bulbs.

Section 4.1.4 now states the following:

“Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.”

This is a brand new update that seems to only focus on headlights.

There are no mentions to fail other LED bulbs such as brake lights, tail lights or reversing lights.

 

1997 'K' series 1600 Seven Supersport (158bhp, Nitrons, SCS Delta ECU)

and some other toys...

SM25T
SM25T's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 12 min ago
Joined: 17/04/2014
Wisamic LED modules fit in standard CC bowls and are only about £60 each on line.
SM25T
SM25T's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 12 min ago
Joined: 17/04/2014
Wisamic LED modules fit in standard CC bowls and are only about £60 each on line.
7 wonders of th...
Offline
Last seen: 11 hours 51 min ago
Joined: 17/04/2014

I looked at JB speaker for my 5.75" lights but the eyewatering price put me off

I bought form here complete with DRL and indicator

https://furoreproducts.co.uk/lighting

 

Pasha
Pasha's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 weeks 5 days ago
Joined: 29/03/2021

Thanks guys, the Wisamic and the Furore ones have given me hope. Are you happy with the Furore ones (spider's eye)?

And are you happy with the 'Wisamic' ones ?

Not sure I love the looks but the £95 is good.

1997 'K' series 1600 Seven Supersport (158bhp, Nitrons, SCS Delta ECU)

and some other toys...

SM25T
SM25T's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 12 min ago
Joined: 17/04/2014

I have the 5.75" Wisamic with black background. They are fab. The DRL halo is good enough for daytime driving without needing dipped beam on.

7 wonders of th...
Offline
Last seen: 11 hours 51 min ago
Joined: 17/04/2014

just seen these....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313701537600?hash=item490a119740:g:--gAAOSwPdxhOHV4

no mention of 'E' marking though...

K7 VCT
K7 VCT's picture
Offline
Last seen: 31 min 26 sec ago
Joined: 17/04/2014
I got mine from original cafe racer, I have 5 3/4 ones. I fitted them after fellow owners had and I'm very pleased with the results https://www.originalcaferacer.com/product/lotus-caterham-7-classic-car-led-headlight-cree-x-2-light-5-75%e2%80%b3-e-approved-530-copy/ I think they do a 7 inch version , why not give them a call. Cost about £114 a pair

Orange is my new black

Ballistic orange 310s
Wrightpayne
Wrightpayne's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 20 min ago
Joined: 17/04/2014