Upgrades - effect on vehicle value

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Upgrades - effect on vehicle value

Hi all, I'm after some opinions or ideally experience...

I bought a CSR260 earlier this year which I love. I've got no plans for selling at the moment, but at the same time I don't imagine I'll keep it forever.

I wanted to keep it as original as I possibly could, and where I wanted an upgrade, I've kept everything to roll it back.

However, I'm currently tempted to get the oil system upgraded to Premier Powers dry sump version to gain the very useful increase in ground clearance (which is pretty vulnerable on the CSRs), as well as getting better control of oil temp (which can get warm on track days).

My concern would be the effect that may have on resale, but I'm also aware that the world of Caterham ownership is very different to most other cars.

What are your thoughts? Do you think such upgrades alienate some buyers and make it more niche, are fairly neutral or are a generally value added thing?

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I think that would add value / make more desirable.

 

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I wanted to keep it as original as I possibly could, and where I wanted an upgrade, I've kept everything to roll it back.

That's exactly the approach I've taken with my R400D.  Lots of mods, but all reversible.

Certainly, the Cosworth CSR dry sump is more than usually exposed, so I'd agree with #2.  However, if you're looking for a cheaper alternative, you could consider a sump guard.  (As it happens, I copied James' design for my own guard.)

JV

 

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On sump guards: well, as I'm about to get another CSR260 (couldn't live with out one, apparently...) then it looks like I'll have to make another of those 'rise and slide' sump guards.  Anyone got contact details for that James chap?? Rofl

On PP mods: all of Stuart's work is very highly regarded (for good reason) and I know his alternative dry sump system and his use of combined water/oil hear exchangers work very well.  I'd certainly view those as well engineered, positive modifications to the base car that would make it more attractive to buy when resell time comes around.

James

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Hi Sam

Considering how well regarded Premier Power are, I would think the upgrade would reflect very well on the car.  I did not even know it existed but would also consider it for my CSR.  I'm planning on using Stuart for my CSR servicing so will also ask him about this.

I was considering on making a sump guard but decided instead just to raise my ride heights globally.  This will not stop a rock destroying the sump but I figured in terms of benefit/cost/downtime it was worth doing - the car was at Northampton Motorsport anyway to be properly set up.  I still might make a sump guard for extra protection.

I now have 93mm sump clearance, even when I was running a bit lower I never obviously bottomed out during normal driving but maybe I was not pushing hard enough.

Obviously I've lost a bit of ultimate performance by running the car higher but I doubt I will notice.

Ben

 

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Upgrades .....Do they effect  value ?    Hmmm Tricky one . I have pondered this in my 310S. 

My car was specced quite highly and unusually from Caterham at build , four years ago. 

Why i say that is because at new , a 620R Nose cone was chosen ; Which i love , (suits the colour) but could be a marmite option . 

Anyway conclusion; All our cars are different , No two are the same , wether from original or later mod. 

Definitely a good plan to keep original parts , to revert back (for new owner) . 

It is such a personal / subjective choice . Options may suit some / be exactly what they are looking for and others .....

Chris 

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Maybe improving the specification is different from changing the model. 
 

So dry sumping a car is improving the spec. Putting a V8 in it or adding a turbo is changing the model. 

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Changing the DS will make it a more useable car to drive with significantly less chance of road impact damage, so if you bought the car to drive change it, if its going in a museum leave it stock.

I would sooner have extra clearance between the road and sump, as opposed to deflecting the impact with a gaurd- the shock from this option will still go into the car be that engine or chassis.

Raceline DS, conventional bell housing and tank, Ralloy or the ex Pace guy making his own easi clean tanks . -12 fittings / hose this also increases the oil capacity too. (Circa 7.5ltrs from dry)

If you want to go all the way use the Raceline compact flywheel to Thumb Up

 

 

 

 

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That's a solid recommendation, Neil - but what's your estimate of total cost to do all of that, including fitting?

James

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Sensible mechanical upgrades won't reduce the value of the car. Nor would a full Premier Power upgrade I wouldn't have thought.

If you start changing the CSR-specific styling that might though.

Tim.

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Note that if you increase the sump clearance, then the brace beneath the gearbox will become the limiting factor for ground clearance.  I measured this yesterday and this has exactly the same clearance as my standard CSR sump.

I'd expect the consequences of something hitting this brace to be less severe than hitting the sump. but still worth noting.