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Ukraine crisis

I think we are allowed to call it that now. The growing story has been out there for those that follow events in more detail but it's only now making the main 'Headline' news. With all 24x7 Covid newsfeed over the past 24 months, this seems to have been the elephant in the room. 

Starting to look as though it may erupt in the coming days and is more than the media whipping it up. It's potentially a very serious situation given the risk of overspill and the sheer size and firepower of the parties involved. 

Perhaps all too depressing for a thread?

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Yes and we're right in the middle.

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It is serious.

I'd like to see what I'd always like to see:

* Clear objectives
* Including a big emphasis on humanitarian support
* Extreme reluctance to act without allies
* Collaboration with everyone in the region... they're going to have to deal with the outcome long after we've departed.

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And the Prime Minister using this to distract from local difficulties is pretty grim. But understandable.

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It is serious but we are not in the middle, we are peripheral and genuinely insignificant.

That is not to say we should stand by but  we won't be sending any military forces.

Ben Wallace Defence Minister on the subject https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-article-by-the-defence-secretary-on-the-situation-in-ukraine

 

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#5. Geographically we are in the middle.

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Of what?

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In the middle between the Americans and the Russians. As a key part of Nato, I have no idea how this will play out but I did think this analysis was good.

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Putin invaded Crimea with very little repercussion. Europe is too dependant on Russia for it's gas supplies to take long term sanctions. He'll use some "security" excuse and move in. The west will moan for years, but won't do much.

I wonder if China will invade Taiwan whilst the USA is worried about Europe. 

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If Putin takes control of Ukraine he'll likely court Turkey as well ...

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Our physical location is irrelevant. We are insignificant and irrelevant to both the USA & Russia.

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