The joys of coucils and surface dressing......

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The joys of coucils and surface dressing......

I wont get on my soap box about the pointlessness that is chucking tar and chippings onto a crumbling road. The equivalent of painting a rotten window....

Anyhow these lovely tiny sharp chippings get EVERYWHERE! 

Has anyone looked at lining their wheel arches to lessen the amount of chippings that end up in the car and in my pants?

I'm thinking of the stuff modern cars have which will lessen the spray/chippings to some extent?

Interested if anyone has tried anything. 

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It's not pointless to be honest. It's a cost effective repair.. 

improve friction co-efficient and protects the matrix of the surfacing as well as filling voids. Much cheaper and quicker than a full resurface.. 

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"Has anyone looked at lining their wheel arches to lessen the amount of chippings that end up in the car and in my pants?"

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It's not pointless to be honest. It's a cost effective repair.. 

improve friction co-efficient and protects the matrix of the surfacing as well as filling voids. Much cheaper and quicker than a full resurface.. 
 

I suspect the key words are 'much cheaper'. 

We have had two recent lots of this close to home. Despite me and everyone I know locally avoiding the area until the quite loose chippings had gone, there are already smooth areas on bends and holes are the edge opening up, within a few months.

Does your cost/effect analysis include the cost of damage caused to cars and the cost of all the warning signs that are never collected just left to rot away in the verges?

'Improves friction coefficient'? That's a bit desperate, isn't it? 
 

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Its not a repair. Its a plaster over a worn out road. It doesnt repair anything, it causes a huge amount of damage to cars, and puts tonnes of chippings into the hedges and verges for the wildife to enjoy. It makes the road "look" new for a month or two. They did it on my road. It generated a massive anount of lose chippings that eneded up in my drive and in the hedges and banks and the potholes are already back. Its a waste of tax payers money. 

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Thanks. Is there a risk of trapped moisture? Best glue to use to bond?

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I've been warned about trapped moisture before, but carry mats are supposed to be sealed cell foam, otherwise the moisture would strike up through the mat when you're sleeping on it.

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I brushed a layer of underseal gloop under rear arches and also under CF front cycle wings. I believe this also helps stop water getting into CF from underneath.

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Sorry, but I don't believe the "it's a cheaper repair" because it's never actually implemented properly. When I've tried to dig into this I've seen assumptions about 10 or 20mph vehicle speeds to make sure the fresh surface takes etc (hence the roadside signage too). Now find a bit of road where this is put down where anyone pays a blind bit of attention to that?

And if it is so good, why do new patches fail again so quickly?

In theory it might be a cheaper repair if done properly by the contractors, with the lower limits required for it to take properly enforced somehow, but the reality of that never happens.

And still doesn't account for the safety of road users (particularly cyclists) trying to get through it, nor the damage it does to every poor sod that has to drive over it in the first few weeks.

 

 

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Cost effective repair? Cheaper and quicker?

Than a proper resurface job, for sure, but nowhere near as effective or long lasting. And unlike a 'proper' resurface, it will need repeating within 6 months. It's a sticking plaster - nothing more. We used to call solutions like this 'squady' - 'something quick and dirty'.

Road resurfacing, as we once knew it is an incredibly rare thing these days. Where I used to live (and it's possibly worse in other parts of the country) a FOI request revealed that roads were resurfaced, on average, once every 72 years!!! In the meantime, they wear away unevenly, the shoulders collapse into verges and they invariably have huge potholes and major surface breakup. We are then expected to believe that a spray of tar and a sprinkling of grit is an effective solution to these issues. Sorry, but it's eyewash.

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