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R4 and 6 were the same. Apparently that confused a lot of body shops after prangs and led to Renaults crabbing down the road!

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Out neighbour where I grew up in the 70s had a 16. I was amazed by the FWD gearbox sitting in front of the engine the last cylinder of which was in the bulkhead.

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"R16 claim to fame?"

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"I was amazed by the FWD gearbox sitting in front of the engine the last cylinder of which was in the bulkhead."

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One of its many other claims to fame was being the first mass-production hatchback. Despite the innovations of the Austin Drawing Office.

And it was fascinating to watch those different approaches to FWD being tried in practice.

"There is no doubt that the Renault 16 is the most intelligently engineered automobile I have ever encountered and I think that each British motorcar manufacturer would do well to purchase one just to see how it is put together."

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"I was amazed by the FWD gearbox sitting in front of the engine the last cylinder of which was in the bulkhead."

And look at what the Founder made of it!

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Agreed Jonathan, the R16 was a fine, fine car. Of course, I'd forgotten the Europa, but the 16 motor was light and well packaged for the job.

I think it ended up in the Feugo coupe 20 years later. You could never accuse the Regie of being boring....Hmmm, then again the 9 and the 18 sort of let the side down.

 

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R8 Gordini , screaming engine hung out the back and a 5 speed box (which was rare , and not seen in a UK equivalent until  ....hmm...ignoring the the Maxi's horrendous lash up of a gearchange ... err , crikey , things like the Astra GTE ?  ). 

R16 was lovely- uncle had a TS which, like the Fiat 125 which preceded it , was light years ahead of old tut like Marinas and Victors . R6- a girlfriend drove one - she  was , thankfully, much sexier than the car .....  

Another friend had a Simca 1204S - fwd , hatch , and a very rorty, twin Weber engine. And then there was the insane NSU TTS a marshal friend had - revtastic . 

 

 

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Dad had a Renault 750, I think it was a 4CV similar silhouette to a VW Beetle, this was in the early 1960's and my first interest in engine maintenance, it needed a rebuild for some reason, so out with the spanners, engine in bits, and look, brand new shiny cylinders in a box and pistons to suit, add is some bearing shells and a new motor that went on until we got my Aunty's secondhand Mini of 1959 vintage, should of kept that one.

Then came a procession of Renaults, a 4, then a couple of 5s, and my first car, a 10, with Webasto sliding sunroof, to let the sun and rain in, Dad soldiered on with various other numbers, I moved to a 12 which I sold to him as I left UK to work in the Middle East, upon my return Dad and I ventured to the car auctions in Southampton, where I became the lucky owner (*yikes*) of a bright yellow rot box R16, engine was sound but the bodywork had some serious tin worm, however the seats were so squidgy and soft, and the super supple ride, read wallowing, made my mates wife travel sick.

That was my last Renault for several years, I moved over to VW, but later bought a new 5 GTL, wrong, so many things wrong straight from the dealers, so in short order that was flicked for Ford XR2, yob car, and I have not had another since then.

Here in NZ Renault are considered a prestige European brand, along with Peugeot, Citroen, Seat, oh dear.

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"Dad had a Renault 750, I think it was a 4CV similar silhouette to a VW Beetle... "

And a very tangled connection...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_4CV#Volkswagen_influence

Jonathan