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David Brown
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F1 or Goodwood Revival

Wife has long suggested that we should go to a European GP. Having a significant birthday next year it looks like being a good time. Have never been able to decide which would be best to go to although Austrian, for some reason, appeals. Don't really fancy any of the "new" ones but would have to have good visibility. 
Having again watched the Revival on YouTube, I'm now wondering if that wouldn't be better with good access and plenty of close racing. 
What are your thoughts or opinions?

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Massively different experiences, so quick answer is do both Thumb Up

Goodwood, despite the steady creep of corporate hospitality which has the effect of edging out the true race fans (nowhere near as bad as it is at GPs!), is all about being up close and personal with cars and drivers (especially if you have paddock access, but it's not essential) and for the most part, brilliant close racing with historic machinery, often worth £millions, being raced 'balls-out'.

Some races are better than others, as with all racing, excitement levels vary, but all excellent in their way.

The dressing up bit is fun and if you do it, a great sense of comradery. Those that don't, look a bit oddly out of place.

If you want the 'feel' of the early Revival (1998 and on) meetings without the fancy dress, I would go to the Members Meeting, earlier in the year. Same great racing with the same levels of up close and personal access, but without all the corporate nonsense and razzmatazz. 

For me, doing a European GP is all about being able to say "we were there!". It's about seeing  F1, F2 and F3 equipment in the flesh and experiencing the sights and sounds for real. Sadly with the demise of V12, V10 and V8 engines, F1 is nowhere near as 'visceral' an experience as it used to be. The pressure waves of sound of a screaming V12 going passed used to be utterly epic. That said, watching (from a suitable vantage point) the speed of turn-in and the sheer velocity though the corners that F1 achieve is frankly, mind blowing.

An F1 weekend won't give you the variety of racing, nor, often the excitement of a Revival or Members Meeting. Also, unless you have very special (read expensive!!) privileged access, you will not get anywhere near touching distance of cars or drivers.

The F3 racing and certainly the sounds of their engines is often far superior to F2. Porsche Supercup is very often processional and not massively exciting, but our young Harry King has pepped it up a bit this year. There is also FW at some GP's, which can be entertaining, especially if you are supporting our Jamie Chadwick. Also don't forget there is often 'extra' on-track activity (such as historic demos etc) that often doesn't make it to the TV coverage. 

As I say, they are completely different experiences, so if budget permits, do both!

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Slightly different but I'd also add the Silverstone Classic to the list, it combines the ability to get close to the cars and people of Goodwood with the opportunity to see some classic F1 (think 80's/90's) cars being used in anger. It's a great event if you can make it.

Of the two I suspect the Goodwood Revival will be the more enjoyable, going to an F1 race is definitely an experience worth doing at some point but there a lot less access and quite a lot of waiting around.

 

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The Revival is a great weekend but not comparable with a GP, IMO. Completely different things with different reasons to go. I wouldn't discount the Festival either but again, not a really comparable event, just different. 

I was booked to go to Austin back in 2020, a special birthday treat from my son. Flights, accommodation, tickets all booked but refunded as things got cancelled. We're trying again for next year, have just booked accommodation. Fingers crossed! A lot more costly than Goodwood of course but a completely different experience! 

A GP would be my preference though I've done both Goodwood events in the past.


 

 

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Sorry David, a distraction to your thread, but worth reading up on.

#3 - I'd agree about the Silverstone Classic Robert, but for the slight problem. Following the recent scandalous and avaricious price increases that Silverstone have slapped on the British GP for 2023, I have vowed never to darken their doors again.

This year, I paid £595 for a 3-day ticket to the Club Silverstone enclosure. Next year they want to take my pants down for £939 - a near 58% increase Rage

My response to that, is if that's how they treat loyal F1 fans who have supported them through thick and thin, just because they want to attract and rip off the 'new' Netflix DTS F1 fan, then they can go and do one. Frankly, they deserve each other!

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If your wife isn't a fanatical F1 fan then the revival every day, we take our wives and they love it, neither are full on race fans but will watch for a while, but there is so much other stuff going on, you can easily spend 3 days, and really need at least two to make the most of it.

we (the lads) do Le Mans / Spa / Silverstone and The Revival smashes them all.

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Thanks all. Should have said I've been to two Silverstone Classics, which were great. Last GP was 197? At Silverstone when a sudden rain shower put 10 or so cars off the track in front of us. But which GP to visit?

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I've been to numerous Goodwood events over the years and now two F1 races (Abu Dhabi 2019 & Monza 2 weeks ago) and for me, the decision would be Goodwood every time.

Harry makes a good point about the 'extras' at an F1 race in post #2, for example at Monza there was a demonstration of Fittipaldi cars, and the Historic Alfa club were doing parade laps. A particular highlight of mine was actually the Porsche Supercup race, with a volume almost louder than the F1 cars and with closer racing.

Whilst neither event could be considered "cheap", I feel that F1 comes nowhere near delivering the value for money that you get from a Goodwood event. The variety of things to see and do at an F1 race is limited to changing a mock F1 car wheel, testing your reaction times and spending a fortune on a team cap. You'll only get good visibility of the racing if you're selective with your seats and are able to pay for the best grandstands.

At Goodwood however, the cars and drivers are up close (I had an extensive conversation with the late John Surtees at a FoS some years back, and got Sebastian Vettels' autograph (despite not really being a fan of his)), and the actual racing will provide more action in a 20 minute sprint than you'll see in half a season of F1. Much like Caterham racing actually.

As evidence of me practicing what I preach, i'll not be going to any F1 races next year, but I plan to be attending at least 2 of the 3 big Goodwood events (probably FoS & Revivial).

Whatever you do, I look forward to hearing about your adventure!

p.s If you decide on F1, I really can't reccommend Monza, the Italian organisation was appalling!!

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"Thanks all. Should have said I've been to two Silverstone Classics, which were great. Last GP was 197? At Silverstone when a sudden rain shower put 10 or so cars off the track in front of us. But which GP to visit?"

1975. I was there too!

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F1 (modern) racing vs a Classic Event are very different things and only you know which you prefer. For me, I would pick Revival every time for the cars, the atmosphere, the access etc. Silverstone Classic is good on paper but I find it a bit lacking in atmosphere and the track size / layout makes it less enjoyable to spectate.

If you are looking to go on a Euro trip, Le Mans Classic and Spa Classic are both excellent and have a good balance of cars, atmosphere and are much cheaper. Spa Classic is a bit of a bargain and far less crowded.

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Revival 100%

Personally I find F1 quite dull now and couldn't imagine spending silly money to go and watch it.

If you have to go and watch F1, there is only one location to my mind and that is Monaco. Went in 1996 although it rained all day!

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